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Inventor Stephen Kreider added a Ramboudi mill head to Cincinnati horizontal mill
Machine is now usable, It works great.
I have adapted a Ramboudi mill Head to my very old cincinnati #2 Horizontal mill. I am looking for a couple pieces of information. I am setting up to manufacture a item, on a budget.
1. Anybody know where to get manuals or information on Ramboudi mills?
2. This might sound stupid, but, What oil and how do I install it into the 2 spd gear box of the Ramboudi Mill Head?  There is a drip type cup on the side in line with the spindle, but it appears to be for the spindle.
3. By indications, it appears this machine has a 2 speed 3 ph motor.  plaq shows 1700 / 3400 rpm.  A diagram / speed chart shows two speeds plus the two speed of the backgear. I tried to wire it to change speed but not much luck.  Can anyone tell me the secret to wiring the motor for changing speeds.  There is a diagram showing a Y diagram and a delta sign diagram, but not sure if these are for speeds or ?  1/4 of the motor plaq is missing.  Of course the missing part is the manufacture name.

June 7 2007




I am almost finished hooking up a vertical mill.  I am trying to learn
 machining.  It fascinates me. Anyway, I could use some information on RPM.
  I would like some rule of thumb speeds to run various bits with various
 metals.

 Also of interest are coolant formulas. Are coolants different for various
 metals? We are a long way from a city.  Are there any home brews that
> work.

 Boyce






Here are 2 questions from the website.  I would like to reply with  2
responses.  One quick one to reply to message board.  I would like to have
 a fairly concise article by one of us to post on page of the website.
 Could I get a couple volunteers?
 Thanks
 Steve

Bruce helps us with machining issues. Thank you Bruce for your reply.

I am out of town now and do not have complete internet access so need to
be brief.  Cutting speeds for hot/cold rolled steel is generally 100
Surface Feed Per Minute (SFPM) Heat treated aluminum such as 6061T6 or any
other than dead soft (1100 series) you can run at 300 SFPM.  Rule of thumb
for cutter RPM = 4 x CS/diameter of cutter.  Example:  Cutting aluminum
with 1/2 diameter end mill.  4 x 300/.5=600 RPM  Your machine will
probably not be capable of exactly 600 RPM so ball park will have to be
used, get as close to it as possible but favor the lower side.

Any sulfur based cutting oil works good on steel and any hand lotion with
lanolin works great on aluminum especially for tapping/threading.  It can
be a little messy when trying to mill with it.  There are several
commercial products available.

If you have power feed on table you need to take the cutter RPM X the
number of flutes X chip thickness = inches per minute (IPM).  Example: 600
RPM x 4Flutes X .002 = 4.8 inches per minute.  This would be a roughing
cut and you will need to slow feed for finish.

Hope this gets you started and will be home the middle of next week if I
can be of further assistance.
Happy machining,
Bruce Olson

June 6 2009


Doug sent a response to us about bit speeds, travel etc.
Thank you Doug
Here is a link to calculate all variations of chip load, RPM, surface feet, etc... http://www.dlindustrial.com/Formulas.htm Regarding various coolants, I would be cautious with any “home recipes”.  You don’t want to rust your machine or work piece but likewise the wrong additives may ruin seals, etc.. in your machine. 
Doug PryorDavid Wolfe Design, Inc.829 Moe DriveAkron, OH  44310PH: 330-633-6124FX: 330-633-9926www.davidwolfedesign.com  depryor@davidwolfedesign.com 

June 7 2009



Rick wrote us with a very good question.

Im curious how the response was to your post? What is the chances of some one hearing some ones idea and running with it leaving the one who came up with the idea in the dust?


Rick
As to the post,  We are getting good response.  The group is growing great. We are having a meeting Thursday May 21 2009.  We are going to discuss Patents and patent searching.

I am not a lawyer.  Here is my understanding.
Well I guess, the truth is, anyone can run with it if it is not protected with a patent.   You can get a provisional patent.  A provisional patent gives you one year protection (established date for patent) so you can find help and get production, (patent pending) then you must apply for a utility patent.  Even then similar items can often be made.    The best bet is to step up to the plate and run with it. 

You can discuss items and ideas with people using a nondisclosure document. Then they are bound by law not to use or disclose to anyone your idea. It is my understanding without a nondisclosure document, if you discuss an idea with anyone the idea becomes public domain.  So you do have to be carefull who and how you discuss ideas.  Dont even tell your brother without a nondisclosure statement. We are going to try to develope a nondisclosure statement for our meetings. Hopefully to help protect people with the group that have a serious Idea and need to explain the idea in order to get appropriate help.

Does anyone have an idea how to write a nondisclosure statement for use with a group like ours? 
Can anyone write any more to this, or correct me if I have something wrong.
If you are not going to produce the idea, you should concider allowing someone to run with it.

May 17 2009





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A person asked

What is the procedure for getting UL approval?  That is a great question.  Various agency approvals are required for different products.  I am going to run this by everyone.  Can someone give us a rundown on UL approval, and other popular agencies.  NSF, UL, CSA, etc.
Steve.

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Dave.  Gary  and Dean  both have a lot of experiance in manufacturing.  They are donating a lot of time to this group.  I passed your message on to them.  Gary wrote this response and we will expound on it at our meeting 5 21 2009.  Maybe we can get the confidentiality thing worked out.  Then I can ask you to tell us your idea.  We can give it a discussion and let you know our feelings.  We would like to help in any way we can.
 
Thanks Steve.
 
 For starters send Dave the chart I made of the suggested methodology to pursue an Invention.  It's attached.  I agree that those outfits on the Internet that offer to help Inventors for a fee are not very useful.
 
Second, Dave seems to also be asking for others to help him evaluate his idea.  I don't know what it is but, if possible, he should seek out and talk to potential users of his idea and get their independent assessment of it's potential.  Maybe go the US Patent Office website and do a search and see if  similar products have been invented.  Also maybe a Google search of a description of his idea would provide some information on whether or not there are similar products.  Another idea, if it's a hardware type product, would be to go to hardware stores and talk to the manager asking for his/her subjective opinion.
 
Hope this helps.Gary
 
PS: Dean and I will bring a laptop and digital projector to demonstrate patent searches, etc.
 
May 13 2009


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Experimental shop wrote
The first thing you need to do is put your idea on paper with dates and time. Next have sketches or prints made, and then make at least a couple of working prototypes. These need to be tried and tested. 
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Dave wrote asking some help and advice.  This is a important concideration before getting too much time and money into developement.   If you have any ideas, or input how to do market research email us at Justaskus@invent-manufacture.com   I would like to post your reply. 
Steve

 
I have this idea and have gone to those invent places you see on TV and they are absolutly no help at all.All they want is money.I work weekends so I can't make it to the meetings,what can I do ? I need to see if anyone else thinks my idea is good and to see where I go from here,any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.Please respond as soon as you can,cause my days off are Tuesday ,Wednesday , and Saturday so I am near the computer alot on those days not so much on the other days.Thank-you Dave Jewell




May 11 2009

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Hi

I received this response from Gary.  Thank you Gary.   Gary is willing to talk about this subject in more detail at our meetings.

 Is Jim coming to your next meeting (5/21)?  If so we could spend time discussing that subject in more detail.. 
 
As you will recall we briefly mentioned it at our first meeting.  Basically the process is to develop a working prototype of you product, clearly define and document its performance/advantages, prepare a "hold in confidence letter" (I presented a sample at our last meeting) and then write to likely wholesalers and retailers asking if they would be interested in licensing your product.  If they express an interest, proceed to the next step of having them sign the confidentiality statement and then disclose your product to them along with it's features.  If they are interested in it then you launch into licensing and royalty discussions with them.   If they are not interested then ask them to refer you to others that might be.  You can find virtually all possible businesses that potentially may be interested through the "Thomas Register" which is available online.
 
It helps to have made a few of the products and given them to potential users with the condition that they write letters of recommendation after they've tried the product.  By doing this you'll have a lot more credibility when you approach the "big boys".
 
Another possible way is to contact "Contract Reps" who sell other products to customers who might also be interested in your product.  If they are interested then you need to agree on the price and commission with the Rep.  You might find potential Reps by talking to some of your current vendors as they should know who is out there selling such items.
 
Hope this helps.  Gary Nelson, Wenatchee SCORE Counselor



May 11 2009
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Good morning.  A reader sent this message.


I have product idea for an item. How can I find out if there is market for this item. Just because I like it does not mean other people would buy it.

Thanks,
Jim Glass
www.Outbackmachineshop.com

Will anyone buy it?  That is a great question.  How do you find out prior to spending a lot of time, and money.  If you have any ideas, or input how to do market research email us at Justaskus@invent-manufacture.com   I would like to post your reply.  I think this is a great topic.  See "marketing" on the message board,  Forum page.

Thank You Jim
Steve

May 10 2009

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Does anyone know of grants available for business? 

Another reader asks

Hey have you ever applied for any grants?

I think everyone thinks about grants at sometime.  Money is one big issues in developing a product. I do not know of anyone who has recieved a grant for a business.  Maybe a reader has applied for a grant.  If anyone has applied for a grant, would you please write us about your experiance?  Email Justaskus@invent-manufacture.com

May 4 2009

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Joshua wrote

I have a couple of questions having to do with gaining financing or investors for a business that I believe (and have companies who are very interested) will be very very successful, very quick.
We have a group of employees who are willing to volunteer for a full year to get this business running.
If you know of anyone who would like to make 3 times there investment within 5 years please let me know.
If the investment is smaller we can offer a quicker turn around time on the investment.
Thank you very much
 
Joshua

What type of business are you trying to start?  Is it retail, manufacturing, marketing etc? Do you have a business plan in place? There are sources available now with some very good terms.  There will need to be a lot of information compiled to look for funding.  We have people willing to help with a business plan, they can help lay the foundation for the business.  Email SteveKreider@invent-manufacture.com

May 3 2009

IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SKILLS REQUIRED IN PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT, MANUFACTURING, OR BUSINESS,   EMAIL THE QUESTION TO   Justaskus@invent-manufacture.com  WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

I HAVE SOME MEMBERS THAT HAVE LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT, MANUFACTURING, ETC THAT ARE WILLING TO SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE.  I WILL POST THE QUESTION AND ANSWER ON THIS PAGE.

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